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endeavor
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Posted: Tue Oct 24th, 2006 11:26 pm |
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I have a Burnham v74 and want to change out the front rope gasket on it since in some places around the cover slight leakage is getting by.
It's listed in my manual that came with my burner as:
Item # 12b = Rope Gasket (BMP) 72027214 (what's the bmp stand for)
Thinking I could use a standard brand I bought a small bag of 1/4" Lynnn rope at the local plumbing store, but as is, it looks too expanded or fluffy to fit into the grove - besides that with this brand obviously I'll need some kind of adhesive to hold it into place first - but the rope will be too expanded or fluffy to fit right unless somehow I twist it smaller tight, but still will have to adhere it somehow.. ..so my question is perhaps I need to order the original part number I've listed above? ..hoping that it's a better fit and somehow have a self adhesive to it?
Suggestions
Thank you
...ps tidbit
(I have always done my own yearly cleanings on it, changing nozzles, etc.. every 5 yrs I like to take the whole front Burner Mounting Plate (8172704) off to be able to also more easily get in there to gently vacuum up the extra debris, etc, hence, why if needed I'd like to replace the rope gasket every 3rd time too)
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Al Gregory
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Posted: Wed Oct 25th, 2006 08:20 pm |
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endeavor
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Posted: Wed Oct 25th, 2006 11:37 pm |
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Hi Heaterman,
Is the well known Lynn Kaowool 1/4 Rope (9404) a good replacement for the Burnham part number (BMP) 72027214 ? ..or do I need the actual Burnham rope?
There's a phone number in my Burnham v74 boiler manual to order parts, albeit the manual is 12 years old now.
If I pull/strecth the Lynn rope it does slim to the right size, but at that taughter point, I can't see how it would be easy to adhesive very well.
thank youLast edited on Wed Oct 25th, 2006 11:38 pm by endeavor
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Al Gregory
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Posted: Thu Oct 26th, 2006 02:17 am |
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| If I remember right the right stuff will have a sticky adhesive attached to it.
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endeavor
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Posted: Thu Oct 26th, 2006 04:37 am |
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Yes that's right, and I've heard that some burner 'kits' do contain that version, however I only need the rope itself as all else is fine. What I'm wondering is if the Rope Gasket (BMP) 72027214 right from Burnham has that adhesive right on it and if it's a better fit than fooling with the Lynn? If so - I'd like to get it. Thank you.
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endeavor
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Posted: Thu Oct 26th, 2006 08:41 pm |
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I had an alternate idea I'd like to see what you think.. ..the original rope is really not that bad and is intact, but it's just from removing/installing that front plate the few times has the rope compressed enough that in just a few places I can see the heat trails of some minor leakage - and so how about if I just leave the original rope gasket in place, but since having 1/2 inch room still left on the plate before the edge, well how about around the entire perimeter left I can put a 'very small thin bead' of high temp caulk - and so when the plate is re-installed the current rope gasket is still the first main seal but now with the squeezed out caulk next in line to it taking care of any minor leakage that may be there.. what do you think?
(maybe a tube of the z-flex z-vent sealent, or something just as good that I could put in a caulking gun for ease of use getting a thiner bead)
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Al Gregory
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Posted: Thu Oct 26th, 2006 09:19 pm |
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Posted: Fri Oct 27th, 2006 02:05 am |
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understood...
thank you.
ps, if I knew the original part number I gave was a self-adhesive rope and a proper fit I would get it just to have anyway; perhaps I will call that Burnham parts phone number in my manual (even though it's 12 years old) ..unless you know of a new phone number for parts.
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mh1205
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Posted: Wed Nov 8th, 2006 01:57 am |
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hi endeavor,
i recently bought a home with a burnham fuel oil burner boiler V74 and trying to find info on how to clean and maintenace it. how old is this boiler anyhow can i tell by the serial #'s? i have baseboard water heat i see you must have the same one i have. it has a beckett AFG AJ-654910 and looks like a honeywell R8184. how often do you clean and cahnge nozzles, filter? i know nothing about these components and trying to learn. any help would be appreciated.
thx mh1205
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endeavor
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Posted: Thu Nov 9th, 2006 03:16 am |
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heaterman, I went through my local plumbing supply and ordered the original burnham rope and it just came in today. It' was $2.95 ...imagine that good price. Anyway it is exactly the right fit and soooo much better than the 1/4" Lynn was being that the Lynn even at 1/4'' was too bulky and having to pull it taught to size while trying to glue it in was a royal pita as it wanted to spring back; comparatively the original rope is more compact, denser, and just all around better. Without question the original rope is the one to get in my book.
Thanks for your conversation heaterman. Actually come to find out, as the crow flies, your company is really not that far from me being on the mass/nh border. I was going to order the rope from you but since my local place got it so inexpensive I'm all set now. thanks again for your time, and thanks for your forum.
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mh1205, the v74 burnham/becket combination is from 1993 ish
Using the proper brushes, and properly cleaning the unit yearly gives often substantial and proven savings as compared to someone who only does it every 3 yrs let's say. The parts are relatively inexpensive. I'd venture to guess and have personally seen a 10 - 15% reduction in oil consumption in that 3 to 1 yr scenario, and at today's oil prices that's alot.
I definitely thoroughly clean the exchanger every single year, and I change the nozzles every 2 years whether it needs it or not, and same with the tank fuel filter (tank filter when you change you can see if it's slugged or not, mine is usually fine but I change it anyway) The parts are readily available at your local professional pluming dealer where the burner technicians get their stuff. (sometimes some dealers won't sell to the public and are only wholesale)
You said "i know nothing about these components and trying to learn"
Honestly though, if you are not mechanically minded nor have that touch, nor have the proper equipment, then I would recommend you get a competent burner person to do it; on the other hand, if you're mechanically handy and have the touch, it is quite easy and rewarding to do yourself.
I've seen a good oil company send out someone who was quite sloppy with their work and did a sub-par and unacceptable job my mother could of done better, and of course I've seen the opposite be true too; iow, know the competency of the burner man that is sent to your house. Last edited on Thu Nov 9th, 2006 03:18 am by endeavor
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mhm1205
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Posted: Thu Nov 9th, 2006 01:33 pm |
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heaterman,
thx for the reply and info. i am mechanically minded and sure i will have no problems once i learn how to service this unit. i beleive what i will do is have the company that serviced it last that is on a label on the boiler come out and watch their service and will heed and improve this service like you said before as some individuals do sloppy and fast jobs. sounds like i will be following your advise on the yearly service as well. 13 yrs does not schock me as when i bought his place 2000 mi. away it is not what it was said to be in the first place. people said when i bought this place that is the first thing to replace is the boiler and fuel oil heat and go to propane. personally we can not smell anything from the basement utility room and do not see any problems in it. i do know it looks like i will need to start looking for an upgrade in the next few years and any advise sure would be appreciated on that also as i don't know what the avg. life of a boiler would be. it looks as though their is close to a 500 gal fuel oil tank in the ground as the oil company filled up and it was 247 gals and they said it was already half full when i bought it. i have a single story brick ranch home here in the country with a full basement. hopefully the service man can help me figure some more things out when he comes. why my username won't take i don't know. it is to be mh1205 but it ask for another dso i add a m onto mh???
thx again and have a great day
mark
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toolman_tim
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Posted: Fri Nov 10th, 2006 03:52 am |
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Hi all. I trust that you all use a combustion/efficiency kit to tune your burner when you finish with the tune-up? Just wondering..
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endeavor
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Posted: Fri Nov 10th, 2006 03:32 pm |
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mh1205.
Great then if you're up to it, and your thought to have them come out first and service the unit while you Watch them what they do to learn - is an excellent idea, and is what I once did myself.
Also like toolman_tim properly pointed out and yes is very true, and I did, but mh1205 after your professional burnerman brush cleans all heatexchanger surfaces, changes the nozzle, properly adjust/gap the electrodes or replace if needed, cleans or replace the oil screen, replace the oil tank filter, absolutely use devices to check combustion efficiency settings and adj mixtures as needed for the best burn and flame, and even check the safety of all cut off devices, etc, etc, and anything else that needs to be done that I forgot to mention which the things you may encounter can be endless and is why officially it's advised you have a professional do it ! ...having said that a very mechanically minded capable homeowner can also do it, and because it's your own boiler, you have the ability to even do it better, or at least more thoroughly..
fwiw, I like to use the Delavan brand nozzles (mine is 1.10 80 B)
I'll leave any more replies to the licensed tech's here themselves..
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